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Falling down the slippery fibre slope


Name: Elizabeth

Occupation: Homeschooling my four-year-old son

Lives in: Seattle area

Ravelry Handle: SpinningLizzy


  1. I’m trying to figure out how to interpret the model numbers for Bergman looms, and not having much luck on the basis of intuition. For example, I’ve see a model number given as 12ALB451. Does the number provide any clues as to width, number of harnesses, or anything else useful?

    I’d really appreciate some help!


    Comment by Susan Berlin | 18 November 2008 | Reply

    • Susan,
      From what I have found on a price list of 1967, it appears that the 12 is for 12 treadle, the box is for box included and the 45 before the one is 45″ weaving width.

      Comment by Tuesday | 8 February 2016 | Reply

  2. Susan, I’ve been wondering about the serial numbers as well. I do have someone who I can ask, but they won’t be available until after the holidays. I’ll let you know if I find out anything. If you find out before me, I’d love to know as well!

    Comment by SpinningLizzy | 18 November 2008 | Reply

  3. I am searching high and low for an anniversary edition of the Lendrum DT. Your blog came up when I did a search, yours is just lovely! I swooned! I thought I’d just write to say if you’re ever in the market to sell it, I’d be more than willing to give it a good home!

    Oh, and just by way of introduction, I’m a homeschooling mother, too. I have 7 kids. I’m a new spinner, a year-old knitter, and just totally in love with fiber arts!

    Thanks, and happy new year!


    Comment by Sara DeMatteo | 31 December 2008 | Reply

  4. Welcome to the world of fibre, Sara! It’s all downhill from here! My wheel was completely unexpected, and wasn’t searched for, so you never know what might happen for you. I hope to hear more of your adventures with fibre in the coming year!

    Comment by SpinningLizzy | 1 January 2009 | Reply

  5. Hi Elizabeth. I just found your blog today via Peg and roared when I read your warping experience. You write really well and your sense of humor is great. If you have a chance please drop me a line. I would love to chat with you about Weavolution.

    Comment by Claudia | 19 February 2009 | Reply

  6. Hello, I recently purchased a Bergman Loom that I am going to restore to its original state, and I would like to find others with Bergman looms that I can look at and pick their brains. If you know of any weaving sisters that can help please let me know.

    Comment by Jenna Jones | 25 December 2009 | Reply

    • Merry Christmas, Jenna! Welcome to the Bergman loom club! Check out the links I’ve listed Trapunto & Deborahbee, who also weave on Bergmans.

      Comment by SpinningLizzy | 25 December 2009 | Reply

  7. There are several people on Weavolution discussing Bergman looms. In fact, there is one for sale and the person might be willing to help out with pictures. Go to: http://www.weavolution.com/node/7120?#new

    Comment by Claudia | 25 December 2009 | Reply

  8. Hi! I just got a 4 ” Hazel Rose loom and I can’t figure out how to warp it. My booklet is pretty fuzzy and ther pictures unclear. I have a rigid heddle but this is nothing like that! How do I start warping the little 4″ loom? There are no indications which end is which. I can’t figure out the pin configurations as being like the booklet that came with it. Thanks for all help you can give me. I have search everywhere to find a better illustration of this.

    Comment by Sharon Porter | 27 January 2010 | Reply

    • Hi Sharon,

      My Hazel Rose loom didn’t come with instructions, but I could warp it by “feel” because I learned how by warping the small Weave-Its looms first. Do you have a velcro dot on the bottom of yours? On mine, I positioned mine so the corner with the dot was up from the corner I started my threading. I downloaded several of the booklets shown on the eloomanation site for diagrammes and instructions. I also watched a couple of videos on YouTube (I think they are still Weave-Its, though) that were also helpful.

      Comment by SpinningLizzy | 27 January 2010 | Reply

  9. Hello!
    I came across your site while searching for info on the Dutch Master 25/10 Loom. May I ask how you got on with weaving with it when you borrowed it from your friend? Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

    Comment by Zaferina | 9 April 2010 | Reply

  10. Hi Elizabeth 🙂 How are you doing? I’m wondering how your weaving is going, since I haven’t seen any new info up for a while. I have moved to Bellevue with the boys, so it would be nice to see you again if you have time.

    Comment by Faye Ku | 6 April 2011 | Reply

  11. Hi Elizabeth
    I just found your site, I feel very identified whith you, I also try to buy all hardware stuff when I start a new handicraft.
    This year I started a weaving class. Its the kind you learn a lot and enjoy a lot ( and laugh a lot!) I´m using my mothers old loom, not a good one, some 18″, and I´m crazy about buying a new loom.
    First , I want to weave wider , maybe 32-35″, I didn´t buy any yet because I want to look first how they work.
    The problem is that where I live ( far south Patagonia Argentina) Rio Gallegos city, there is only one shop that may have one loom, perhaps. In Buenos Aires there are several loom models, not one as smart as the ones you have, they are rustic ones. (I´M talking about riggid headles)
    In a chilean city , Punta Arenas, near us, there is a girl that builds and sells a nice loom, I think the model is like Ashford´s. Made in a fine wood but a little heavy, I wonder if I can go to classes whith it.
    I wondered if I can build one here, my husband maybe or a carpenter. It may be much cheaper, of course I´d buy the headdles. But I find no plans for that ( I´m an architect you know?)
    I would like your advise, buying abroad is unthinkable.

    Comment by SILVIA MIRELMAN | 4 September 2012 | Reply

    • Hi SIlvia, something I’ve found about weaving — if you’re not in a hurry, it’s easy to have lots of encounters with looms. In our area, is there a way to find listings of used things people want to sell? I find that by keeping an eye on these sales lists, looms do come available at affordable prices. You might also want to put your name down as interested in buying a used loom. Also, there are lots of old weaving books that are available free on the Handweaving.net site. I do believe there will be plans for looms in some of them. It’s not a bad idea to buy or borrow a first loom, use it, then go from there to build your own! Best of luck to you!

      Comment by SpinningLizzy | 4 September 2012 | Reply

  12. Thanks for your reply( and forgive my english!) Here you don´t have that posibility, here there´s no second hand market for that, and it´s very expensive to bring it from abroad, also in this moment we have problems whith imported beings and whith money exchange. Please look if you detect some loom plans and give me a cry…
    I wanted to ask you which of the looms ( riggid H.) you have will you recomend.
    .thanks, Silvia

    Comment by SILVIA MIRELMAN | 4 September 2012 | Reply

  13. Hi again, I wanted to ask you for Riggid Headdle sites in internet, mostly they are on more complicated looms and its not my target. I bought Betty davenports DVD and I think it is wonderful and clear, I learned a lot.
    Bye Silvia

    Comment by SILVIA MIRELMAN | 4 September 2012 | Reply

    • Hi Silvia, I know how it is to be mad for doing something right away! Here are two other places to ask for help: the Ravelry.com “Warped Weavers” forum, and Weavolution.com sites. Lots of weavers to be found there! I’m fond of both the Ashford Knitters and the Schacht Flip rigid heddle looms. The Knitters looms are lighter, and better for travel. The Flips are very solid, but also heavier.

      Comment by SpinningLizzy | 4 September 2012 | Reply

  14. Well, thanks again, I´ll look at those forums. A friend of mine who is fron New Zealand has an Ashford, I haven´t seen it yet, maybe I can make a design out of it……See you …silvia

    Comment by SILVIA MIRELMAN | 4 September 2012 | Reply

  15. I’ve been perusing your blog and reading a lot of historical posts because I recently acquired a Rasmussen table loom that looks quite like your Gil. So fun! I was wondering if you had any tips for removing the heddles? it looks like I should just be able to unscrew the heddle shafts from top/bottom but I’m not having any luck with that yet. Thanks!

    Comment by jess | 10 September 2012 | Reply

    • Hi Jess, sorry it’s taken so long to reply. About removing the heddles… on my Rasmussen, the shafts have a metal tab screwed into the end of the heddle shafts. I had to oil the screws before I could unscrew them. Did you figure out yours yet?

      Comment by SpinningLizzy | 26 September 2012 | Reply

  16. Hi Spinning LIzzy, thanks for this lovely blog including your experiences with a Rasmussen loom. I have a 4 shaft Rasmussen table loom, but I have string heddles. Do you have any images on your blog of Gil’s setup for the shaft harnesses? I’m interested in working up something a bit more even and consistent than the string/ dowel arrangement.


    Comment by Adrienne Myers | 17 December 2012 | Reply

  17. I wanted to get in touch with you about the table loom you added treadles to. I did not see an email address for you anywhere. I want to rig something up for mine and was hoping you could take some more photos at different angles… Let me know? Email me if you would!

    Comment by Sharon Medway | 29 May 2013 | Reply

    • Hi Sharon, I’ve been meaning to take better photos. Right now, the loom is in storage, and I haven’t had the chance to take it out for pictures.

      Comment by SpinningLizzy | 6 June 2013 | Reply

  18. Hi Sharon, my mail is: smirelman@gmail.com. What I`ve done is a riggid headdle loom, whith plans of my own, If you want the plans or the pictures I can send them. For other looms more complete I have no idea yet, .I think I`ll go on whith my simple one for some time, and after try to learn whith more complex looms…..regards..Silvia

    Comment by Silvia Mirelman | 6 June 2013 | Reply

  19. Elizabeth,
    Thank you so much for all the information you have posted on Bergman Looms. It is one the first places that those that Bergman owners go for information. I am new owner of a 1952 M 8ALB451, 10 treadle, 8 harness, countermarch Bergman loom. I have become fascinated with the Bergman Looms and their history. I am gathering as much as possible on my Bergman Looms Community Facebook page regarding the history/photos of looms. One of the things I am doing is a survey of contact information of each owner and features of each Bergman loom. Could you please complete the survey for your Bergman? https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/88QQW37 Also, https://www.facebook.com/BergmanLooms is the Bergman Looms Community Facebook page.
    Tuesday Ashley
    email: bergmanlooms at gmail dot com

    Comment by bergmanlooms | 14 February 2016 | Reply

  20. Hi Elizabeth,
    Thanks to you I know my loom is not a Rasmussen or Montana loom… but a Bergman table loom! I couldn’t find a loom online that looked like mine before right now! I read you didn’t end up buying the table Bergman with that useful stand… but I’m hoping you have suggestions for where to source the “Universal style” stand with treadles. Is this something in production still? I thought maybe the Montana Looms loom legs would work but with them out of business I might need to look elsewhere. Any tips?

    Comment by Kallie | 22 March 2017 | Reply

    • Hi Kallie,
      Your information about Montana Looms is more current than mine. Weaving is such a tough way to make a living. I have seen the loom legs come up (infrequently) on Craigslist, but another way to try is to put out an ISO on Ravelry (start with the Warped Weavers board.) There is also a yahoo group called WeavingSalesAds to try out. I am rarely on Weavolution or kbbspin, but an ISO there might also help. Hope that helps!

      Comment by SpinningLizzy | 23 March 2017 | Reply

  21. Hi Elizabeth,

    I am so pleased to find the information you shared about replacing the heddle bars on one of your looms! I recently acquired a Rasmussen 4-harness table loom but have found that as I’ve started working on bigger projects, the heddle bars are completely bowing under the pressure — reducing my shed to non-existence. I have been trying to find sturdier replacement bars with no luck but your words have inspired me to go forth and make them myself! A few questions: How have you attached the top bars to the pulley strings? Just tied in a knot through the drilled hole? And, did you sand down the sawed ends by hand? Any other tips for someone taking on this particular project?

    Thank you for the inspiration!

    Comment by calley | 13 July 2017 | Reply

    • Hi Calley,

      By “bigger projects”, do you mean using more of the 24″ weaving width, putting on a longer warp, or using heavier yarn for warp?

      I have not have the heddle bars bow under pressure, but I did make the mistake of over-tightening the cords that run to the legs, and did notice that it adversely affected my shed. I haven’t corrected that yet, and the loom has been unused for a few years for just that reason!

      As my loom isn’t accessible at this time, I can’t recall the details on how they are attached, but let me try to help in another way by posting photos of the tie-up (Done! See https://spinninglizzy.wordpress.com/2017/07/14/rasmussen-tie-up-photo-post/ ) Hopefully that will help you to get weaving on your Rasmussen soon!

      Comment by SpinningLizzy | 14 July 2017 | Reply

      • Thanks for your quick response!

        Yes — by bigger projects I mean using more of the 24″ weaving width. Hm, I didn’t even think about the fact that it could be the cords causing the problem….!

        Thank you for sharing the photos on the other post! So are the heddle bars in the photos the ones you cut yourself? Did your loom come with the small tabs screwed into the ends of each bar (and then attached to either the spring at bottom or cord at top) or did you cut those yourself too?

        Thanks so much for your guidance,

        Comment by calley | 16 July 2017

  22. Yes, my loom came with those tabs. If the treadle legs aren’t attached, the cords are run through the eyes of those tabs.

    Comment by SpinningLizzy | 16 July 2017 | Reply

  23. I just want to say, that Riccar sewing machine you got, is the best thing ever! I had mine for 43 years and it finally had to go away because i couldn’t find anyone to fix it because of parts. I regret throwing it away and wish i had another one just like it. It will do so much for you. It takes a licking and will keep on ticking. I just wanted to tell you. Those other machines can’t hold a candle to the ole girl!!

    Comment by Rhoda Johnson | 17 March 2018 | Reply

    • Thanks for the input! I have been happy with mine, although I use it only very lightly.

      Comment by SpinningLizzy | 18 March 2018 | Reply

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